{"id":519,"date":"2009-04-27T12:19:26","date_gmt":"2009-04-27T10:19:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tplusplus.de\/wordpress\/?p=519"},"modified":"2009-06-17T13:51:57","modified_gmt":"2009-06-17T11:51:57","slug":"10mm-vietnam-project","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wittwer.nl\/?p=519","title":{"rendered":"10mm Vietnam project"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-485\" title=\"vietnam1\" src=\"http:\/\/www.tplusplus.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/vietnam1.png\" alt=\"vietnam1\" width=\"392\" height=\"100\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wittwer.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/vietnam1.png 392w, https:\/\/www.wittwer.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/vietnam1-300x76.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 392px) 100vw, 392px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I have long been interested in the Vietnam War and gaming it, which has lead to a couple of 1\/600 scale airplanes for Thud Ridge and 20mm miniatures. Space and money constraints however meant that I wasn&#8217;t fully satisfied with 20mm as scale and decided to go smaller. While 15mm was an option, it&#8217;s too close to 20mm and vehicles are still quite expensive, plus the choice in vehicles and helicopters is rather small. Lots of Vietnam-related miniatures are available in 6mm, but 6mm infantry is probably too small for individual basing, and<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ghqmodels.com\"> GHQ<\/a> does not sell single vehicles. That&#8217;s how I ended up with 10mm scale. Although not commonly used for individual basing, it is feasible in my opinion. The small size should make is possible to play most battles on a 60x60cm surface, and really big battles on 120x120cm.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I will start by building a US infantry platoon and a comparable Viet Cong force. I might later expand with an Armored Cavalry platoon and NVA forces.<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: left;\">Rules<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">There are several sets of rules available for Vietnam era wargaming. One of the most popular for skirmish gaming seems to be <a href=\"http:\/\/www.angelfire.com\/az3\/twohourwargames\/FNG.htm\">FNG<\/a> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.angelfire.com\/az3\/twohourwargame\">Two Hour Wargames<\/a> &#8211; although a nice set of rules, it tends to bog down when more than a squad or two are used on each side. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rafm.com\/charlie\/charlie.html\">Charlie Company<\/a> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rafm.com\">RAFM<\/a> seems to be good as well, but is an older set of rules. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blitzkrieg-commander.com\/default.aspx?Area=CWC\">Cold War Commander<\/a> might be suitable for larger engagements &#8211; something that will also be possible with <em>FNG: Over Green Hell<\/em>, which hasn&#8217;t been released yet. Another long-awaited release is <em>Charlie don&#8217;t surf<\/em>, the rules <a href=\"http:\/\/www.toofatlardies.co.uk\/\">Too Fat Lardies<\/a> are working on.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I instead got interested in the<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ambushalleygames.com\/\"> Ambush Alley<\/a> rules, and immediately bought their <em>Force on Force<\/em> set of rules when it came out. Although they are working on <em>Ambush Valley<\/em>, an expansion for the Vietnam War, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessary to get started. I quickly came up with stats for Vietnam vehicles and would use the World War II special rules and Fog of War\/Asset cards. Ambush Alley uses individual basing and casualty removal (which I both like, I&#8217;m not a fan of abstract &#8220;this tank represents five&#8221; rules), but firing etc. is on a fireteam basis, so it&#8217;s reasonably quick even with platoon- and larger-size forces. It also has very elegant mechanics for actions and reactions, and I can spot only one thing potentially wrong with it: You need lots of dice, non-standard ones (D8, D10, D12).<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: left;\">Miniatures<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I know of only two companies that make 10mm miniatures suitable for Vietnam: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pendraken.co.uk\">Pendraken<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk\">Miniature Figurines<\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/minifigs.com\">GFI<\/a> in the US). <a href=\"http:\/\/www.timecastmodels.co.uk\/\">TimeCast<\/a> make a couple of nice Vietnam-style buildings.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Pendraken has a large range for the 1st Indochina War, the range for the American war is somewhat smaller except for the Australians. I don&#8217;t like that Pendraken sell only single-pose packs. Worse, their US forces with helmet are all in rather static poses, and the M79 gunners wear the boonie hat instead of a helmet. In pictures, the M-16s didn&#8217;t look nice. Pendraken&#8217;s assortment of vehicles and choppers is also very small. On the upside, they have nice heavy weapons set, civilians, and water buffalos.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Miniature Figurines offers four suitable packs of infantry: US, Australians, Viet Cong and NVA. Each pack has a variety of poses and enough soldiers for a platoon. In pictures they look nicer than Pendraken. Some of their &#8220;African civilians&#8221; should also be suitable for Vietnam. The vehicle range is complete: M113s and variants, M48, M551, the T-54 and PT-76 for the North Vietnamese, even a PBR and a Sampan. The choppers also leave little to be desired: Long and short Huey, Cobra, OH-6 and OH-58.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I have decided to use Miniature Figurines for infantry, vehicles, and helicopters. I will augment these with Pendraken heavy weapons and civilians. Infantry will be mounted on 12mm (0.5 inch) washers. I plan on scratchbuilding most buildings.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have long been interested in the Vietnam War and gaming it, which has lead to a couple of 1\/600 scale airplanes for Thud Ridge and 20mm miniatures. Space and money constraints however meant that I wasn&#8217;t fully satisfied with 20mm as scale and decided to go smaller. 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